Friday, January 8, 2021

25a? impeachment? how does that affect my stoopidstats?

After the disgraceful events of Wednesday, egged on my President Trump, there's renewed interest in impeaching him again (and this time convicting him and removing from office) or removing him via Section 4 of the 25th Amendment (25A§4).*

I'm not here to opine on the relative merits of the two courses of action. But I'm a bit of a process geek, and I also have my weird StoopidStats thing. So on that basis alone I'm kind of fascinated by the possibility of Pence becoming president for less than two weeks. He would go down in history as the shortest-serving president (passing William Henry Harrison who served for a month), and his presidency would likely be of little consequence -- other than the symbolism of Trump being forced from office. But the history books would record that he was President.

But then I started wondering -- can it really happen?

The impeachment route would require both houses to reconvene. The House of Representatives would have to vote to impeach, and the Senate would have to have a trial** and convict. My understanding is that both houses have the necessary votes. I suppose it could be accomplished in the few days left. But that would require all parties to act quickly. Given the logistics, I don't see it happening in time to remove Trump from office before Biden is sworn in.

That leaves 25A§4. Before I address this, let's look at the actual language. But first, note that this interpretation is my own, and I am not a lawyer.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

If you're interest is in the symbolism of the first ever invocation of this procedure, then have at it (assuming you can get Mike Pence and a majority of either the Cabinet or the appropriate Congressional body to start the process). But for the Stoopidstats geek like me, it won't matter. Trump would remain President until his term expires this month.

To see why, consider the language quoted above. There are, essentially three steps (as described below). For brevity, I am not reiterating the timing involved, and I'm further editing the language. If you don't trust me, read the actual language above.

  1. The VP and a majority of either the Cabinet or the appropriate Congressional body send a letter to the House and the Senate a declaration that the President is unfit. At this point, the President is stripped of his duties and responsibilities. The Vice President becomes "Acting President," and assumes the duties and responsibilities. But the President does remain President -- this is made clear by the language at the beginning of the second paragraph that still refers to him as the President.  
  2. The President sends a response saying that he is fit.
  3. The VP et. al. reassert that the President is indeed unfit.
  4. Congress decides the matter and either the President is removed (at which point the VP becomes President), or the President resumes his duties and responsibilities.

For President Trump to be removed from office, all three steps of the process would have to play out. That is just not going to happen in the time remaining. In fact, the language of the Amendment doesn't specify how long the President can take before responding. So President Trump could simply shrug, go golfing, and spend his remaining time as a powerless and dutiless President. But he would still be President. Given the short time involved, I suspect that's what he'd do.

So I could be proven wrong, but I doubt that Trump will be removed from office before the end of his term.

At any rate, the process of 25A§4 brings up an interesting question. Well, it's interesting to me, anyway. Suppose a President is inaugurated as scheduled, and then 25A§4 is invoked later that day. Can the President refuse to respond for four years and effectively spend a full term as a powerless President?

Further (and, yeah, I know this is deep within the realm of crazy), suppose that happens but our powerless President somehow gets reelected. Does his powerless status continue? Or does he get his powers back with the second inauguration? If the former, suppose he is not reelected, but is then subsequently elected to a second nonconsecutive term. Does he get his powers with that second term?

One final note: If Trump is removed from office before the end of his term, that will slightly improve his "SCOTUS Days Ratio," which is a statistic I invented to measure a president's influence on the Supreme Court as a function of his time in office. I defined that statistic here.

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*Most discussion of this issue seems to refer simply to the 25th Amendment without specifying which section. 25A covers other presidential replacement/succession issues (such as death or resignation). Sections 1, 2 and 3 have all been invoked at least once. I prefer to refer to 25A§4 to make clear that I am specifically referring to Section 4.

**What a "trial" consists of is left to the Senate to decide, so it could be very very quick.

2 comments:

  1. Here is my mind slice, I'm wondering what you think?
    https://blog.thegallos.com/2021/01/19/can-trump-be-impeached-after-his-term/

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    1. Interesting.

      Based on the language you cited in your post, it would seem that the Senate could still hold a trial and convict Trump, even with him out of office. But conviction would have no actual effect -- unless you find value in there being the stigma of being the only president to be impeached and convicted.

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